Joel Richardson, I want to bring you back to the futurist theory in Daniel 7-12.

Updated: Oct 22

Joel Richardson,

I want to bring you back to the futurist theory.

Daniel 7 specifies the 4 Kingdoms and how Turkey (Leopard) is next to strike.

Iraq (Lion), Iran (Bear), Turkey (Leopard), Diversified 4th Kingdom of all 3 before (Lion, Bear, Leopard).

Daniel 8 is about the Ram/Goat war and talks about this war that will happen in the Latter-days or End Days.

Iran/Persia, through proxy war, will force the Kurds/Medes to join them. The Kurds will be driven out of Syria and Iraq as Turkey creates genocide on these Kurdish peoples. These 2 kings will align (Iran/Kurds) as stated in Daniel 8:20, and then Turkey (Erdogan) will move like a whirlwind and crush them both (Daniel 8:7).

Gog of Ezekiel 38-39 is the Leader of Turkey and at this time this is Erdogan. But, it is the leader of Turkey, whoever that is at that time.

After the destruction of these 2 Kings (Iran/Medes), Erdogan of Turkey will spring forth as the new Ottoman Emperor. He will start out as a smaller player that will unite 10 Muslim nations before he is done and grow in stature. I also equate him to the White Horseman (Rev. 6:1-2, Ezekiel 39:3) as he will be given this Ottoman Empire Crown and be the new Ottoman Emperor.

Erdogan has stated he wants to revive this empire & Caliphate against the Jews & Israel by 2023.

If Gog is the White Horseman and 1st Seal, he potentially broke this when Erdogan/Gog invaded Syria on Yom Kippur on Oct. 9, 2019. This then would start a time-clock to unleash the next 3 horsemen as he moves toward Israel by 2024.

Today as I am writing this we are seeing everything from the global economic meltdown, civil rioting, protesting, Corona-virus, food supply chains are broken, famine, locust, earthquakes, chain-of-fire events and even ¼ of the earth in a war in the middle east in the next 3 to 4 years.

Jesus warns us that these are only the Sorrows or Birth Pains and that these are all Latter-day events. (Matthew 24:3 & 8, Luke 13:3 & 8, Luke 21:7-8, Ezekiel 38:17).

Jesus even tells us who his disciples were in this private meeting in Mark 13:3.

This will allow Erdogan/Gog to start to form the 10 Muslim (Horn) nations that will end up in Israel as he moves through the middle east and into Africa (Ezekiel 38-39).

Daniel 9 talks about God’s judgement against Israel and that 70 weeks will be placed on the Jews to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

But, at this point, we are in the 70th week and that Antichrist will soon sign a 7-year covenant of death with the nations (treaty).

In Daniel 10; Daniel is sickened by this vision of this judgement against Israel, that is coming in Latter-days, and his people the Jews.

In Daniel 10:20 he is visited by an angel and has another vision.

The angel Michael is told to explain the vision of Daniel 10:13.

This is a Latter-day vision and a judgement against Israel and God’s people the Jews.

That Jesus/God will bring Turkey against Iran (Persia)/Kurds (Medes) (Daniel 10:20) (Gog of Ezekiel 38-39).

At the end of Daniel 10:21, he tells Daniel that he will tell him the truth and he also restates this in Daniel 11:2.

In Daniel 11:2 he talks about the start of the Ram/Goat War of Daniel 8.

Daniel 11:5 states that Erdogan/Gog will get to Egypt and hit a choke point and must set up an agreement with the daughter of the king of Egypt (possibly the Egyptian leader's daughter Aya el-Sisi) (Jerem. 46:11) (Jerem. 46:19) (Jerem. 46:24).

There will be several confrontations between these 2 nations, Egypt & Turkey (Daniel 11:5-19), and that this will be in Latter-days (Daniel 11:6).

But, Erdogan/Gog will be broken and be divided into the 4 Winds of Heaven. These 4 Winds are stated in the Sorrows or Birth Pains in Rev. 7:1 during the selection of the 144,000.

* These winds are being held here (Sorrows/Birth Pains) and will be released on the 6th Trumpet which occurs on (Matthew 24:24) (Rev. 9:13-15) (Daniel 7:8) (Daniel 8:8) (Daniel 8:22-23) (Zech. 2:6) (Zech. 6:5) (Zech. 6:12-15).

God tells us he will destroy all of Erdogan’s/Gog’s 10 (Horn) armies that come from the north (Joel 2:20, Ezekiel 38:15, Ezekiel 39:2).

This destruction will occur on the 6th Seal (Ezekiel 38:18-2) (Ezekiel 39:19-23) (Rev. 6:12-17).

That Erdogan/Gog and his armies will be buried for 7 months and the weapons and fuel will be used for 7 years (Tribulation, Great Tribulation). This time occurs between the destruction of Erdogan/Gog on the 6th Seal (Sorrows & Birth Pains) to the dropping of the 7th Bowl (God's Wrath).

* This is not the same Gog/Magog war as Rev. 20:9. These Elect/Saints/Martyrs that fall away from God/Jesus, during the millennium, are devoured by God’s hand by fire.

Due to this they never receive the 2nd death and are not appointed to the Lake of Fire once the Book of Life is opened.

For God has already vanquished them and since they are not flesh in the millennial 1,000 years and are spiritual beings, not flesh.

They cannot be buried anyway.

At this point, all people are either destroyed by God’s hand by fire or they are appointed to be placed in the Lake of Fire if their names are not found in the Book of Life once then Great White Throne comes down the masses are raptured and judged in this same book (Book of Life).

These 10 nations will be judged by God (Ezekiel 38-39) and all 10 nations will be judged by God on this 6th Seal Event (Ezekiel 38:18-23, Rev. 6:12-17).

The wrath of Lord/Jesus in Rev. 6:15 is not the same as the wrath of God or the 7 Bowls. The wrath of the Lord/Jesus is against Gog as they attack Israel with 10 Muslim nations and 2/3rds of God’s people perish as Jesus is opening the 7 Seals (Ezekiel 5:12). We are still in the Sorrows and Birth Pains and the 7-year treaty with the nations has not been signed yet. This will not happen until after the Antichrist comes back on the 6th Trumpet after the Bottomless Pit opens on the 5th Trumpet.

From this destruction of Gog and his armies, the 10 (Horn) nations will be in chaos and will break down into 4 regions (Daniel 8:22-23) – which will come from one of them, Antichrist or a Little Horn (Turkey).

Once Antichrist is resurrected (Isaiah 14), he will quickly overtake the other 3 regions and they will fall under the new Beast System led by Antichrist that he will establish.

These 3 regions will not stand long against this supernatural nightmare.

Isaiah 14:11-14 & Rev. 12:7-9 both tell us that God is having a war in Heaven at this same time, (right now in real-time as the seal are breaking), and that Michael the Angel will stand up and throw Satan out of Heaven and that Satan will lose his seat forever, and Michael will open the Bottomless Pit on the 5th Trumpet and the Antichrist and the False Prophet will rise on the 6th Trumpet as the Beast of the Sea (Rev. 13:1) and the Beast of the Earth (Rev. 13:11).

That this will be a resurrection event from a dead Erdogan/Gog as he is buried in Hamon-Gog with his 10 Muslim (Horn) nation armies.

Isaiah 14:9 states that Hell is moved to this location. And even the 4th Seal indicates that Hades and Hell are already moving to meet Erodgan/Gog in the grave as he moves through the middle east to Israel (Rev. 6:7-8).

Isaiah 14 states 3 times this will be a resurrection event as Satan is being expelled from Heaven by Michael the angel forever. (Isaiah 14:9-12, Isaiah 14:15, Isaiah 14:18-20). Satan will not meet Erdogan/Gog in the grave and that Antichrist will spring forth from this grave in Hamon-Gog as a resurrection event. Erdogan/Gog is being held by Hades in Hell for this purpose.

That Erdogan/Gog will be covered in worms below him and above him (Isaiah 14:11). For Erdogan/Gog will be buried for 7 months prior to the resurrection event of Antichrist.

Who can war against a supernatural being (Rev. 13:4)?

Daniel 11:21-28 starts this dialogue of Antichrist’s rise on the 6th Trumpet (Rev. 9:13) as the 4 Winds are released (Rev. 9:15).

Antichrist will then win over the nations with flatteries, and the False Prophet (Pope) will sit at his side and show miracles that exalt the beast, Antichrist (Daniel 11:24).

But Egypt will cause stress for the Antichrist and they will set agreements and throw flatteries at the nations (Daniel 11:25-29).

Egypt, King of the South, and the ships of Chittim will come against Antichrist and Antichrist will become grieved and return to God's temple and create indignation against the Holy Covenant and commit Abomination of Desolation on God's seat, the Temple Mount (Daniel 11:30-31).

The Elect/Saints/Martyrs will stand against Antichrist and will die for their testimony (Daniel 11:32-35) (Rev. 13:7). Once the Abomination of Desolation occurs, Great Tribulation starts.

Antichrist will exalt himself above God himself (Daniel 11:36-37) (Rev. 13:6).

That Antichrist will exalt the god of forces, Satan (Daniel 11:38-39).

At Daniel 11:40 he reiterates what is to come.


1). Egypt (King of the South) will push at Turkey (King of the North) (Daniel 11:40) (Jerme. 46:6) (Jerem. 46:10) (Jerem. 46:20) (Jerem. 46:24).

2). Erdogan/Gog will war against Egypt (Daniel 11:41).

3). Erdogan/Gog will move through Israel and many other lands/countries and even Egypt will not escape its footprint. Africa will be at his footsteps. Libyans and Ethiopians will be joined with Gog/Erdogan of Turkey (Daniel 11:41-43) (Ezekiel 38:5) (Jerem. 46:9). They will make it to God’s Seat or Temple Mount, the ultimate prize, and then be destroyed on the 6th Seal by God (Ezekiel 38:18-2) (Ezekiel 39:19-23) (Rev. 6:12-17).

4). God’s remnant (Jews) will flee to the hidden place (Daniel 11:41) (Rev. 12:6), but these Jews shall escape out of his hand (Erdogan/Gog), even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon for the 1260 Days prior to Abomination of Desolation or after 3 ½ years after the signing of the 7-year covenant of death with the nations.

Only 1/3 of the Jews will survive through this invasion of Erdogan/Gog.

* Ezekiel 5:12 states that 1/3 of the Jews will die from a locust event (Joel 1) prior to the attack of Gog and his armies which kill another 1/3 of the Jews (Joel 2). Only 1/3 of the Jews will be repentant and be taken to the hidden place. Joel 3 is about the 6th Bowl and the Battle of Armageddon, the rapture of the Elect/Saints/Martyrs on the 7th Trumpet just after our Lord Jesus comes back. Once the 7th Trumpet comes and sounds (which does not happen in Rev. 10:7) out God hands out the 7 Bowls of Wrath to be dropped on the wicked left. The 7th Trumpet sounds in (Rev. 15:1).

5). But Gog will hear tidings of distress from the north and the east and take his armies back toward Israel (Daniel 11:44) (Ezekiel 38:4, Ezekiel 38:10, Ezekiel 39:2).

6). Erdogan/Gog will sit between the 2 seas (the Mediterranean and Dead seas) in Israel prior to the invasion of Israel (Daniel 11:45, Ezekiel 38-39).

Daniel 12:1-3 talks about the very end, as Michael, again stands up against Antichrist, but that all the peoples will endure 1260 days until Desolation of Abomination and that the Elect/Saints/Martyrs will join with our Lord Jesus on 7th Trumpet which sounds in Rev. 15:1 when God hands out the 7 bowls to the 7 angles (1st Rapture). That even the buried in the sea the earth and below the earth will be raptured and be judged in the Book of Life (Rev. 20:11-15) (2nd Rapture).

Daniel 12:4 states that Daniel should seal up the prophecy/book until the end which will be in end days or Latter-days.

Daniel 12:5 states Daniel sees two other angels standing on both sides (banks) of a river.

Daniel 12:6-7 states that one angel asks the other angel how long it would be to the end of these wonders. He states 1260 days.

Which is the time between the signing of the 7-year covenant of death with nations (treaty) and Desolation of Abomination.

Daniel 12:8-9 states that Daniel is not supposed to understand, and the prophecy will be sealed until the end days or Latter-days.

Daniel 12:10 states that many will be forged in God’s name as they stand for their testimony for God against Antichrist as they try to win over souls to God.

Daniel 12:11 states that from the time of the removal of the Continual Burnt Offerings are taken away, to the time of Desolation of Abomination it will be 1290 days. If this is the case, Antichrist will stop the Continual Burnt Offerings 30 days prior to the signing of the 7-year covenant of death with nations (treaty). Then we would have 1260 days to Desolation of Abomination (Daniel 8:13-14).

* Some Bibles say Daily Sacrifices instead Continual Burnt Sacrifices. I use a Revised Standard Version 1952 in this case or KJV for reference.

Daniel 12:12 states that you are extremely blessed if you make it to the 1335 days. God shortens the 2nd half or none of His Elect would survive (Matthew 24:22). If this is the case this would be 75 days after Desolation of Abomination.

Daniel 12:13 states that after this time the Elect will stand with our Lord/Jesus.

Also, Daniel 8:14 states something important. It states that we should also understand the 2300 days. Gabriel the angel gives him the answer to this mystery.

1). Daniel 8 is about the start of the Ram/Goat War (Iran/Medes) and that Erdogan/Gog of Turkey will move through the middle east and enter into Africa at which time he will be pulled back by God to Israel and sit between the 2 seas. Then an attack upon Israel with 10 Muslim (Horns) nations (Seals 1-6) in the next 3 to 4 years based on my timelines and flowcharts.

Gog invades Syria as the White Horseman (1st Seal) and dies on the 6th Seal with all his 10 (Horn) Mulsim armies.

2). The 7th Seal selects the 144,000 Elect and we have a silence of about ½ hour (Rev. 7:4) Rev. 8:1).

Chapter 7 is a Prophecy of the 144,000 Elect.

The 6th Seal breaks on Rev. 6:12, but the 7th Seal does not break until Rev. 8:1 when John has his 1st of 3 additional visions in Revelation. The other two are at the end of Chapter 10:8-11 when he eats this little scroll or book, given to him by the angel, and sees a vision of the prophecy of the nations and peoples which runs from Chapter 11-14. He sees the 3rd Vision in Rev. 17:1 about the prophecy of the judgement or destruction of Mystery Babylon or the Seat of Satan (Rev. 2:12-16) (Rev. 16:10-11).

3). The 1st 4 Trumpets hit and destroy 1/3 of the planet (Communist areas in my opinion to buffer the 10 Horn region) (Rev. 8:7-13). This is a Jewish/Christian/Muslim event, not a communist one.

4). War in Heaven and Michael the angel expels Satan from Heaven to earth. The 5th Trumpet sounds and opens the Bottomless Pit allowing man without God seal to be stung/tormented for 5 months without death. 5th Trumpet - 1st Woe - Bottomless Pit Opens.

5). Gog’s 10-nation army dissolve into confusion, now they and the Ottoman Empire are defeated, and have a power struggle into 4 regions. One which Antichrist comes from, the Little Horn.

6). Antichrist is expelled from Heaven and is allowed to resurrect Antichrist from a dead Gog (Ezekiel 38-39) into Antichrist. Both the Beast of the Sea (Antichrist) and the Beast of the Erath (False Prophet) rise together.

Resurrection Event of Isaiah 14. Erdogan/Gog, that now is buried in Hamon-Gog, will be resurrected into Antichrist after being buried for 7 months.

6th Trumpet resurrection event of Antichrist - 2nd Woe - Antichrist rises.

(Rev. 7:1-11) (Rev. 11:1-14) (Rev. 12:4) (Rev. 12:9) (Rev. 12:12) (Rev. 13:1-18) (Rev. 17:8-11) (Isaiah 14:11-15) (Ishiah 14:19-20) (Daniel 2:40) (Daniel 7:8) (Daniel 8:9) (Daniel 8:22-23) (Daniel 11:4) (Daniel 11:7) (Matthew 24:24) (Zech. 2:6) (Zech. 6:5) (Zech. 6:12-15) and many others I am still adding as I update this article.

7). Antichrist will stop the Continual Burnt Offerings (Daniel 12:11) (Daniel 8:11) (Daniel 9:27) (Matthew 24:15).

8). 30 Days later Antichrist signs the 7-year treaty with the nations.

9). 1260 days to Desolation of Abomination. 2 witnesses appear and prophecy for 1260 days (Rev. 11:3-12).

10). 2 Witnesses are overcome after Desolation of Abomination and lie in the street 3 ½ days prior to being resurrected so that the whole world sees it (Rev. 11:3-12).

11). Shortened 2nd half or 75 days to the sounding of 7th Trumpet and our Lord comes back (Feasts of Trumpets) (Matthew 24:22).

12). Rapture of the Elect/Saints/Martyrs of Great Tribulation (Rev. 15:2).

13). 7 Bowls are handed out and God pours out His wrath on the wicked left (Rev. 15:1). Destruction of Mystery Babylon or the Seat of Satan/Beast on the 5th Bowl (Rev. 14:8) (Rev. 16:10) (Rev. 18:2 & 9) (Isaiah 21:9).

14). 6th Bowl is the Battle of Armageddon (Rev. 16:11-14) (Joel 3:14). The 3 unclean spirits (frogs) are expelled from Satan, Antichrist and the False Prophet (Rev. 16:13).

15). 7th Bowl dropped in the air to cleanse the plant tom prepare for God’s bride (Rev. 16-17).

16). Rev. 20:1-3 we see the False Prophet and Antichrist is thrown in the Lake of Fire and Satan Bound for 1,000 years.

17). Then we see the 2nd Gog/Magog War when Satan is released for a short time to deceive. But, remember these that fall during this time, at the end of the 1,000 years, are devoured by fire by God’s hand and not buried like they are in Ezekiel 38-39 in a grave in Hamon-Gog. Since these that are destroyed by God will not ever see the Book of Life or be thrown in the Lake of Fire (Rev. 20:7-9).

18). Then even Satan is thrown in the Lake of Fire (Rev. 20:10).

19). The Great White Throne comes down and the Book of Life is opened. The dead in the earth, Hell and in the Sea are judged in the Book of Life and either found in this Book or are thrown in the Lake of Fire with Satan, Antichrist and the False Prophet (Rev. 20:11-15).

20). Rev. 21 unites God’s bride with the earth in Jerusalem.

21). Rev. 21-22 give a visual understanding of God’s bride, His new city, New Jerusalem.

22. God ends the Book with warnings to You and how You can lose your rewards and crowns if You do not listen and follow this prophecy that runs through the whole fabric of the Bible.

I believe Daniel 7 starts with the downfall of Sudam Hassein and now we are seeing Iran reach out through proxy.

But, Turkey will come next as Daniel 8 set-up in the next year.

So basically Daniel 7-12 are all end days or Latter-days prophecy.

I built this timeline and flowchart below to show the 4 times that Daniel gives us in Daniel 8 & 12 (1260, 1290, 1335 and 2300 days) and how they work with the Parable of the Fig Tree in Psalm 90:10. It is amazing how many Hebrew/Jewish Calendars in the next 7 1/2 years.

With this, in place, you could have destroyed Chris White. Which you did anyway.

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