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Why I believe Pre-Seals & Pre-Tribulation Rapture Prophesy is a False Teaching of Man.

Updated: Nov 5, 2021

Rapture of the Elect-Saints-Martyrs of Great Tribulation happens just after the Lord Jesus comes back at the sounding of the 7th Trumpet.

RAPTURE IS PRE-WRATH - God clearly states in Rev. 15:1 the 7 Bowls are the "wrath of God". God's wrath will be poured out on the wicked left once the Elect-Saints-Martyrs are removed in Rev. 15:2-3.


Revelation 15:1-3

King James Version (KJV)

15 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. (7 Bowls)

2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God. (Rapture of the Elect-Saints-Martyrs from Great Tribulation)

3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.


This is not to be confused with the "wrath of the Lamb" in Rev. 6:16. This is the wrath of Jesus or the Son of God.


Revelation 16:1

King James Version (KJV)

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:


You will be here for the:

1). Sorrows & Birth Pains which is from the opening of the 1st Seal to the Signing of the 7-year Covenant of Death with Antichrist and the Nations.

2). Tribulation starts after the arrival of Antichrist. It is the time span between the signing of the 7-year Covenant of Death or treaty with the nations; to Desolation of Abomination.

3). Great Tribulation is just after Abomination of Desolation to the return of our Lord Jesus on the 7th Trumpet. This occurs before the 7 Bowl judgments of God's wrath which are handed out to the 7 angels in Rev. 15:1.

Great Tribulation does not end until all 7 Bowls are poured out and a voice from God temple says "it is done" (Rev. 16:17). This happens just after the 7th Bowl in poured in the air and cleanses the earth. After this New Jerusalem or the "New Bride" starts to descend from heaven to join with the earth (Rev. 21:2).


Revelation 17:1

King James Version (KJV)

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.


God indicates that all Nations (Gentiles) and the Jews will be tried and judged in the end days.

(Rev. 11:1-2).


Revelation 11:1-2

King James Version (KJV)

11 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.


The Nations and Gentiles will be here for the 7 Seals, to just after the 7th Trumpet and that we will be here between the 6th Trumpet when Antichrist rises, through Desolation of Abomination to just after the 7th Trumpet when our Lord comes back.

Do not be deceived by man’s interpretation of the word of God.

Only by the true word of God, through his letter that he sent to all of us, the Bible, can we see God's real plan.

Rev. 11:2 clearly indicates that the Gentiles & Nations will go through the Tribulation period for 42 months, 3 1/2 years, or 1260 days.

Some churches teach that when John is taken to heaven in Revelation 4:1 by the angel of Jesus; that the whole church is taken too.

* I see no evidence here that anyone was taken but John.

Rev. 4:2 clearly states that when "I" or "John" is taken to heaven in spirit.



Revelation 4:1-2

King James Version (KJV)

After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.


The Body of Christ or the Churches do not get a Free Golden Willy Wonka Ticket to Heaven, and that we will have to endure all events to the 7th Trumpet when our Lord Jesus comes back (Rev. 15:1).

Some churches will tell you it is because of God's Grace you will not be tried and be taken away before even the seals start to break.


To not prepare your oil, or have enough oil, in your lamp to make it to the end or just after the return of our Lord Jesus on the 7th Trumpet. (Matthew 25:1-13).


Revelation 19:11-16 King James Version (KJV)

The Heavenly Warrior (Jesus) Defeats the Beast

11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.


* Antichrist (Beast of the Sea) rises with the False Prophet (Beast of the Earth) on the 6th Trumpet (Rev. 9:13) as Satan is being cast out of heaven forever in Rev. 13:1-18.


Our Lord Jesus does not come back until the 7th Trumpet in Rev. 15:1, just prior to the 7 Bowls being handed to the 7 angels. That these are the "Last" seven plagues and they are the "wrath of God" not the Lamb which is the 6th seal in Rev. 6:16.

God clearly warns us that all of us need to:

1). Learn to walk with God.

2). Obey the commandments given to us by our Lord Jesus.

3). We need to guard ourselves against fornication, lust, greed, and the ways of man.

4). That we should not blame or despise God for the shortcomings of man. God gives us endless tools to use. Man can either abuse them or not. But, we should not blame God for abusing these gifts from Him.

5). That we should all love our fellow brother, walk honestly through life, stay to our own business, and display through our walk with God and the son Jesus how God wants us to treat each other.


1 Thessalonians 4:1-12 Kings James Version (KJV)

Living to Please God

1 Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more.

2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.

3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:

4 That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;

5 Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:

6 That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.

7 For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.

8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.

9 But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

10 And indeed ye do it toward all the brethren which are in all Macedonia: but we beseech you, brethren, that ye increase more and more;

11 And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;

12 That ye may walk honestly toward them that are without, and that ye may have lack of nothing. ______________________________

* Many churches will have you believe that the book of Revelation is only for the Jews or that the church (Body of Christ) will be Pre-Raptured prior to Seals or even Tribulation. That they will not be here for any of the Sorrows, Birth Pains, Tribulation, or Great Tribulation.

In my opinion Rapture can only be Pre-wrath based on what God shows us and any other interpretation is a false teaching of man and not backed by scripture.

God addresses this book to “YOU”. The one holding this book called the Bible.

That “YOU” should do these things or “YOU” may lose your crowns and rewards in Heaven. That John is NOT TO SEAL the prophecy of this book (Rev. 22:10).

That God will place "You" under trial in the latter or end days and that God will be watching us (Rev. 22:11).


Revelation 22:10-11 King James Version (KJV)

10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.

11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

______________________________ God warned us that we should understand the time or season God is talking about.

What if we do not prepare enough oil for our lamp?

We will not make good choices when God does place us under trial. That the overwhelming horrors of the latter or end days will make men curse at God for their condition.

Will you be one of the 5 virgins that did not have any oil? Or not enough oil?

God tells us not to be ignorant. To prepare for the worst and hope for the best. That if you do not prepare and then the hour of trial comes upon you, do not curse God for your failures to listen and prepare your oil for the next 7 years or to the 7th Trumpet when our Lord the Son inherits the earth and God the Father is with us.


1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

King James Version (KJV)

Believers Who Have Died

13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. (Rev. 15:2)

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord (7th Trumpet - Rev. 15:1) shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God (7th Trumpet - Rev. 15:1) and the dead in Christ shall rise first (Rev. 15:2):

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. ______________________________

God states that we should know the day if we are not deceived. That Jesus will come "like a thief" and take your rewards and your crown. That "sudden destruction" will come upon the wicked and they will not escape God's wrath (7 Bowls - Rev. 16:1-21).

That God has not appointed us for His wrath (1 Thess. 5:9).


1 Thessalonians 5:1-11 King James Version (KJV)

The Day of the Lord

1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night (7th Trumpet - Rev. 15:1).

3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.

9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath (Rev. 15:1), but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.

11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do. ______________________________

* God's wrath is not poured out until Rev. 16:1 when He pours the 7 Bowls of His wrath on the Earth (Rev. 16:1-21). ______________________________


1). God tells us to be watchman, to warn our fellow man.

2). To not do evil in the end or latter days.

3). To prepare properly to have enough oil in our lamps so we can do good and help our fellow man.

4). Always rejoice in the Lord and God, that God is always in control and he has a great ending for us if we can hold our faith to the very end.

5). We should always pray for His love and guidance.

6). Give thanks to our creator and be thankful for what we have, even in terrible times. For without the creator we would have nothing.

7). Quench the Spirit in the word of God and place on your armor or protection.

8). Do not despise or curse the prophets for telling you what is coming. They have warned you.

9). Prove all things and hold fast only good.

10). Allow NO evil to come into your life. For the cost is your rewards and crown to heaven.

11). That if you listen, follow His instructions, prepare for the worst, have enough oil in your lamp, have faith that God is in control; you will make it to heaven and be preserved blameless until the coming of our Lord Jesus on the 7th Trumpet (Rev. 15:1).


1 Thessalonians 5:12-28 King James Version (KJV)

12 And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you;

13 And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves.

14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men.

15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.

16 Rejoice evermore.

17 Pray without ceasing.

18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

19 Quench not the Spirit.

20 Despise not prophesyings.

21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (7th Trumpet - Rev. 15:1).

24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.

25 Brethren, pray for us.

26 Greet all the brethren with an holy kiss.

27 I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read unto all the holy brethren.

28 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen. ______________________________

Revelation 16:1-21 King James Version (King James Version)

The Seven Bowls of God’s Wrath!

1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.

2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.

4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.

5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.

6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.

8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.

9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,

11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.

19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.


Since we are not appointed for God's wrath or the 7 bowls. Rapture of the Elect, Saints, and Martyrs of Great Tribulation happens on Rev. 15:2.

1 Thessalonians 5:9 states that God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation.

God's wrath does not occur until the 7 bowls happen which is after the 7th Trumpet is blown on Rev. 15:1.

Psalms 90:10 clearly states a normal or regular generation is 70 and a strong generation is 80.

Since the birth of Israel was on May 14, 1948.

The 70-year generation was on May 14, 2018.

I would guess there is a strong correlation that all things will happen PRIOR to May 14, 2028.

How will you survive for 7 years and not be forced to take the Mark of the Beast if you cannot buy and sell?

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